Anyways that led me to the British Newspaper Archive (following thier cited references) which I then found article after article in newspapers across the UK (mostly in the early to mid 19th c) reporting accounts of Neid Fires ! I only got 2 free articles and need to pay for access but this is what I’ve been looking for ! Evidence that this practice was widespread and not just isolated incidents! I had to stop as other things to do but came across at least 49 articles from across the UK - some looked like same article and there may be some red herrings but this just proves the Neid Fires was a thing! one day I will pay for access and spend time going through and documenting. The main reason for the Neid Fires in the 19th c was the belief that the smoke from the new pure fires started through the friction of wood would cure cattle from the murrain. Oh this is a fantastical find 😀 Here are some .....
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ Westmorland Gazette Saturday 19 July 1834 – 1 Saturday 20 February 1841 – letter to the editor Saturday 27 February 1841 – letter to the editor Saturday 21 November 1840 – 2 Saturday 13 March 1841 Saturday 14 November 1846 – letter to editor Saturday 17 March 1866 Saturday 05 May 1877 Kendal Mercury Saturday 14 November 1840 Saturday 28 November 1840 Saturday 05 December 1840 Saturday 13 February 1841 Saturday 27 February 1841 Saturday 20 February 1841 Saturday 04 November 1843 Saturday 24 November 1855 Saturday 31 May 1856 Saturday 04 March 1865 Saturday 25 December 1869 Saturday 07 July 1877 Tuesday 08 September 1812 – Limerick Gazette Wednesday 06 May 1812 - Belfast Commercial Chronicle Monday 27 November 1815 - Leeds Intelligencer Saturday 16 February 1822 - Sheffield Independent Tuesday 26 October 1824 Manchester Mercury Thursday 24 June 1830 - Dublin Evening Post Saturday 13 August 1831 - Staffordshire Advertiser Friday 25 May 1832 - Stockport Advertiser and Guardian Saturday 26 July 1834 - Carlisle Patriot Saturday 28 November 1840 - Berwick Advertiser – Northumberland Thursday 03 December 1840 - Bradford Observer Saturday 05 December 1840 - Carlisle Journal Saturday 02 January 1841 -Saturday 02 January 1841 Wednesday 25 March 1846 - Derry Journal Saturday 14 November 1846 – Hereford Times Wednesday 10 January 1849 - Morning Advertiser - London Saturday 10 March 1866 - East Somerset Telegraph and General Advertiser Saturday 10 March 1866 - Brett's St. Leonards and Hastings Gazette and Visitors' Vade Mecum Sussex Surrey, Suffolk and more! SHFF still continues to smoulder and the odd spark fly into the air .... SHFF is an apprentice of the Ancestral Fire after all
A quick update on SHFF - I'm having a little step back this year but my connection to the ancestral fire and SHFF will continue far far into the future......  SHFF is continuing to evolve - my focus is now on more further encouragement of communal welcoming of fire. I can welcome fire on my own using a variety of methods. I am most passionate about welcoming fire with others.
Traditionally the welcoming of fire has been a communal activity - you only need to look at photos of indigenous peoples - you always see at least 2 or 3 people helping each other. It’s only in this modern society where we have been conditioned to go it alone / challenge one self and we feel that we are failing if we need help. Myself included. Oh the Ego! When I teach people to rub sticks I encourage people to work together e.g make and use bow drill together - which can be challenging as naturally people want to do it on thier own (I do let people do that too😀) but we don’t have to or need to do things as a solo challenge This year I shall be endeavouring to do more communal fire welcoming and less solo rubbing of sticks - I’m not finding it as rewarding as when I engage and guide others and I am finding myself feeling less inclined to go out and practice on my own. (and I’m just going with it and not forcing anything - so atm I’m not rubbing sticks as much as I used to. I feel that I don’t need to. ) I especially would like to encourage and involve people who may not be able to welcome fire on thier own. Traditionally communities worked together. I also hope to communally and ritually welcome the ancestral fire using the fire churn more if the opportunity so arises. It’s a wonderful way to welcome the ancestral fire 🔥🙏 SHFF…rekindling our connection to the sacred - fire, ourselves, our ancestors, the land, our world - through rubbing sticks🔥 Rekindling the Neid Fire-Sacred Practice-Workshops-Ritual Blessings on the ancestral fire 🔥 Ian 🙏 #ancestralfire #sacredfire #ritualfire #alternativebristol #firebyfriction #frictionfire #mindbodyspirit #mindbodysoul #journeywithfire #animism #heathenism #paganism #shamanism #alternativefirelighting #ukfestivals #natureconnection #ceremony #ritual #fireritual #retreats #sacredcommunity #spiritualpractice #holisticliving #ancestralskills #fireapprentice #ritualtheatre #neidfire #folklore
There is always something to learn and something to pass on.
I have been soaking up knowledge and stories ; and exploring my connection with the ancestral fire through rubbing sticks for the last 10 years. I don’t teach friction fire in a bushcraft way (there are plenty of skilled bushcraft practitioners if you are wanting to learn efficient fire methods) but in my own holistic mystic (predictive txt! But i like it!) approach weaving in folklore, stories and the sacredness of fire. Connecting with ourselves, each other, nature, the world around and our ancestors. Encouraging communal traditional ritual fire welcoming and a deeper spiritual connection. If you feel called to my approach (few do thankfully as life is quite busy 😀) and would like to learn about welcoming and connecting with the ancestral fire through rubbing sticks in-person do get in touch, something may just happen at the right time. The universe does seem to connect me with the right people at the right time 🙏 And anyone can be involved in welcoming and connecting with the ancestral fire - that is also my passion to reach out to those who may have been put off from learning to rub sticks - you don’t need to be an avid outdoorsy type ; nor of certain ability ; nor demographic ; it’s not a solo challenge. we work together ; together with nature and the elements ; to welcome and explore and learn and connect. p.s I work in small groups / 1:1 Minds on Fire: Cognitive Aspects of Early Firemaking and the Possible Inventors of Firemaking Kits22/1/2024
I have recently discovered this interesting article within te Cambridge Acheological Journl :
Minds on Fire: Cognitive Aspects of Early Firemaking and the Possible Inventors of Firemaking Kits www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cambridge-archaeological-journal/article/minds-on-fire-cognitive-aspects-of-early-firemaking-and-the-possible-inventors-of-firemaking-kits/CF76FFCF540D58B6B1DACF17C4A51C94 I have demonstrated ice bearing blocks a few times but as it's sooo cold here atm I thought I'd do another demo ! A vid inspired by a comment on one of my youtube vids - basically a recap on my approach and I don't always take myself seriously :) I’m trying to just go with the flow … I’ve not felt inclined to rub sticks or post much for a while so I’m just going with it… not forcing anything. Today (14th Jan) it just felt right to select a piece of seasoned Popular and take time to carve a new set … being aware.. not rushing … just taking my time. Tweaking the blade until I was happy with the shape then tweaking base so it sits solidly on the ground. Taking time over my position and applying enough pressure. I burnt the set in … usually I pause but today it felt right to continue and after a while an ember was coaxed (very rarely do I coax an ember on first attempt with a fresh set.) today I was really connecting and not rushing. Honouring the ancestral fire and life itself 🙏
I then took my time with the tinder bundle, letting the ember develop , not rushing not blowing too hard ; slowly and tenderly feeding the ember with breath until it burst into flame 🔥🙏 there is a misconception that friction fire is difficult that you need to exert loads of energy and go fast and tire yourself out. Take your time.. take your time to learn, take your time to not get an ember, don’t see no ember as failure but as practice and learnings, take your time to experiment, take your time to practice, there are no prizes, no awards, just your ego, let it go and go deeper to connect. 🙏 SHFF…rekindling our connection to the sacred - fire, ourselves, our ancestors, the land, our world - through rubbing sticks🔥 Rekindling the Neid Fire-Sacred Practice-Workshops-Ritual Blessings on the ancestral fire 🔥 Ian 🙏 #ancestralfire #sacredfire #ritualfire #alternativebristol #firebyfriction #frictionfire #mindbodyspirit #mindbodysoul #journeywithfire #animism #heathenism #paganism #shamanism #alternativefirelighting #ukfestivals #natureconnection #ceremony #ritual #fireritual #retreats #sacredcommunity #spiritualpractice #holisticliving #ancestralskills #fireapprentice #ritualtheatre #neidfire #folklore Sacr please do checkout this very interesting interview by my friend Rune @nordic.animism with Professor of “Fire” Stephen J Pyne. I came across Pyne’s books a few years ago and have a few of his books and was fascinated about the way he talks about fire and the history of fire and the age of fire (the pyrocene) he approaches fire from a more scholarly/scientific angle rather than my more esoteric angle - so I find some of his writing a bit heavy going and tend to flick through to pick up key bits of info BUT backs up some of my own views and research and there is no one who has documented fire like Pyne - and I’ll adopt Pyne’s phrase of being a pyroromantic And thanks to Rune for mentioning me a few times 😍 As I like to say “we are forged from fire” - without Fire we wouldn't be here! I shall most likely do a post or even YouTube ramble on the pyrocene (a term dubbed by Stephen J Pyne) at some point from my angle on it - fire has become mechanised ; industrialised and internalised and hidden from view but we are still very much dependent on it. I like Pyne’s analogy that we are cooking (everything) on fire including the planet. I respect and honour fire through my own practice and approach - and for me my own sacred approach to fire is very important - we can not continue to cook the planet - and to change that our connection to fire must change on a deeper level is what I believe - tho I know I shall never get many - any!? (I know I do have a few😀) - followers in my approach 😀 🔥🙏 (I can’t see me ever becoming a fire cult - one may dream 🤣) Fire is in our DNA. We are forged from fire🔥🙏respect it; honour it; without it we wouldn’t be here - it is tied into the very fabric of life
when I need a fire either when camping or as part of a ritual or an event then a fire will be coaxed and I will draw on my knowledge and experience to ensure fire is welcomed through rubbing sticks and tended with awareness (not rushed and doesn’t matter how long it takes unless of course one is needed in an emergency ) . Outside (includes within large covered spaces/roundhouses etc) I will always rub sticks to welcome fire with sets I have prepared . Preparation is all part of my practice.
I’m not doing as many practical posts at the moment but passing on the knowledge and skills I pick up along the way is also important to me so I will still continue to share practical tips too - and lots on my website and a fire plough tutorial on YouTube. In the past I did mostly practical posts but now I want to share more about the sacred aspect of my approach as that is the underlying reason I rub sticks and underlying in my approach when I guide people to rub sticks.and it’s just as important for me to pass on my approach, philosophy and share folklore & stories  I don’t mandate any way of conducting fire rituals. I do not follow any particular belief but my own path.I endeavour not to appropriate from other cultures. my focus now is welcoming fire in ritual for use in uk My practice has evolved from 9 years of rubbing sticks and being involved in sacred practice over 20 years and my research into neid fire
I guide people in how to welcome fire by rubbing sticks and pass on knowledge and skills so they can use in thier own practice and pass on to others. With Neid Fire I guide people in materials needed. I share the history, folklore and myths surrounding Neid Fire and that it was used for hundreds of years in ritual in UK before being wiped out in the 19th c. Use of Friction fire was then mainly absent (in uk) for over a hundred years until bushcraft/survival movement. I am trying to address the absence of Neid fire and welcoming of fire in a sacred way in the UK to pass on to others. I share what is important for me and pass on the knowledge I have gained so people can dream into and weave in what is important to them. Ritual can be influenced by time of year / beliefs / spiritual path / the land/ nature/ local customs/folklore / a theme / a crisis etc etc that can all be weaved in . Traditionally Neid Fire was for use in time of need and auspicious events. I can work with people to make the Neid Fire apparatus and use it in communal ritual so they can perform thier own rituals and pass on the tradition themselves. Thankfully I know this practice is still alive within Eastern Europe/Slavs /Baltics/Russia - it is Western Europe where it seems to have been buried in the ashes (mostly - I know I am not the only one out there and know of a few times it’s been used in last 10 years just not widely known ) “Apprentice of fire”.
I recently saw someone use that phrase and it really struck a chord with me. As well as a welcomer of fire or is that a fire welcomer I will always be an apprentice of fire Or one could say a disciple of fire. I shall never be a master of fire. It’s like “fire keeper” - are we the keeper of fire or is fire the keeper of us 🙏 I welcome and tend the ancestral fire I love exploring the language of fire - language is important to me and my use of it evolves as I continuously explore my connection with fire. No doubt I shall dream into more phrases for welcoming and tending the sacred flame 😀🙏 I coax the embryonic ancestral fire out of hiding from the wood I welcome the ancestral fire through breath I’m always learning Connecting and honouring And passing on to others Without fire we wouldn’t be here. We are forged from fire.  Wood choices for sacred fire… I don’t mandate any particular wood - what is important for me personally is:
1-it’s native to where I am 2- preferably it’s sourced local to where I am welcoming fire (if at all possible) 3-it’s been collected from fallen/dead standing wood or it’s overly abundant and has been harvested sustainably My preferred wood for bow drill in ritual is English Oak which has been collected from wind fallen branches. Hazel is my favourite tree and loves having fire coaxed from her and commonly sheds branches. For sacred/ritual practice I collect my wood in advance and season There are lots of combinations for bow drill and it can be a personal choice.I also make my own cordage usually from nettles With Neid Fire I am working on a larger scale and so I am reliant on what I can find which has naturally fallen - I have Hazel and Ash spindles and Hazel and Poplar hearth logs and Holly for the bearing log. I kept/keep scouring the woods to find suitable fallen branches/trees.And for Neid Fire you need to collect in advance and season Traditionally Oak was used for Neid fire but it is very difficult to find suitable fallen oak and I would NEVER cut a live Oak for my own purposes and I DO NOT advocate cutting live Oak. For the fire wood - for me it is importent that it is native, local (if poss) and collected from fallen wood and is a good burning wood and is dry - I commonly use hazel and/or birch first (fast burning) then ash or seasoned oak. Again I collect in advance and season. (These woods are all native and local to me) The sourcing, collecting and preparing the wood is a huge part of my friction fire practice which I endeavour to do with awareness and respect and gratitude -for neid fire it can take several months I’m blessed in that I live next to woods with Hazel, Oak, Elder, Ash, Hawthorn, Elm, Poplar, Willow, Tilia, Ivy, Clematis |
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